(24:27) The future of product management with AI (21:59) Casey’s approach to interviewing PMs (12:17) Advice for thinking outside common frameworks (10:15) The “zero interest rate phenomenon” product manager (07:26) What Casey learned in his role as CPO of Eventbrite (05:24) Why the CPO position is frequently short-lived

Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Google, Overcast, and YouTube. Finally, Casey shares his contrarian approach to interviewing product managers and his thoughts on the future of PM roles with AI. We explore the three types of network effects, how to leverage them, and how to break someone else’s network effect. He provides valuable insights on thinking outside popular frameworks, shipping products efficiently, and avoiding overreliance on user research. In today’s episode, we discuss what Casey calls the “zero interest rate phenomenon” product manager and how to avoid becoming one.

Before Eventbrite, he led growth and product teams at Pinterest and Grubhub.

He’s worked with companies like Airbnb, Faire, Canva, Whatnot, Thumbtack, Tinder, and Reddit and until recently was the Chief Product Officer at Eventbrite, where he managed the PM, design, research, and growth marketing teams. Brought to you by Amplitude -Build better products | Eppo -Run reliable, impactful experiments | Ahrefs -Improve your website’s SEO for freeĬasey Winters is a longtime and legendary advisor and operator.

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